Archive for December, 2011
First I want you to look at this, taken from our forums. It’s about eventual physical CD’s of the coming album that you guys are making a reality. Forumer EvigFokk had this to say:
“- K, about the final product, since the original plan is to upload the album in digital form, one option would be to have Statik work the graphics and also include them on-line so we can go to a printshop and print the booklet and CD label ourselves. I also just saw something called digipak i-create—don’t know how it works, but it’s worth checking out. Lastly, since the $5000 will only cover recording and production costs, have you considered whether to add physical print costs on top of the $5000 or to only charge those interested something extra on top of what has already been donated? I remember you mentioning that you would stop the donation experiment once the goal was reached, but maybe you could start a poll to see whether most people want a physical copy or not, and if they do, if the TPH goal should be readjusted to account for the print and shipping costs and the experiment allowed to continue, or a flat fee just be charged to those who care about it. Since raising the goal would mean a change in the original agreement, I think it would only be fair for the majority to decide so that people don’t start accusing you of changing the terms.
I personally prefer the first option because it seems like we’re making pretty good progress and maybe we could surpass the $5,000 mark if there are still a lot of Haters out there unaware of the donation experiment or just people who have just recently been exposed to the band, and if so maybe it would be fairer to those who donated since there’s a possibility they wouldn’t need to pay anymore (even though everyone paid knowing their donation would go strictly to production costs and no one was promised a physical copy, it would be nice if what we donated were to include a physical copy as well, if conditions are favorable for that to happen, although I’m sure the added fee wouldn’t be too high). Sure there is no guarantee that if we reach the $5,000 goal we will reach the adjusted goal as well, but we could have that as an option once we reach $4600 or something like that, since I feel that at the rate we’re going will reach $5,000 before the album is completed.
Or you could just stick to all-digital and not have to worry about all that, although I’m glad we’re in a comfortable enough position (80% of the goal reached) so that people already feel confident to start a discussion about this issue.
By the way, I really enjoyed Teaser 1—can’t wait to hear what you have in store with the same production as BTNA.”
Here is my response to that:
Tons of nice input. Thanx. I am already thinking about this physical copies thing – but the issue is that I don’t know if it would be possible to actually raise money for that as well. I wouldn’t be surprised though considering how tremendous the support’s been so far with this thing. It still blows my mind. I am actually checking with a few companies what it can cost to print, say, 500 or 1000 dikipaks (lighter in weight, better-looking, and cheaper to ship). We’ll see what comes out of it.
Naturally, everyone who’s donated a single dollar or a hundred should have a “free” copy (well.. you guys made this album happen with the donations) of it, but then we are talking about postage for some 100 packages to ship out, which is not cheap. Especially not considering most of the donations have come from outside of Sweden. We’ll see if we can work this out somehow.
But a poll about it? Not too many people visit these forums, nor the site. It seems like the donations have dropped in word-of-mouth, so a poll could be misleading. This is tricky. I believe it’d be easier to think about this once I know how much it would cost to actually print cd’s.
If any of you guys in here feel we should try to do donations for actual cd’s as well, feel free to say so in here. It doesn’t mean it’ll happen since I don’t think too many will actually comment on the issue at hand. If you’re not registered at these forums but are still reading this – please feel free to e-mail me at firstname.lastname@example.org and lemme now you’d appreciate a physical cd, and that you’d buy it if so. I can’t sit around with 500 or a 1000 cd’s at my place to no use, you know.
About packaging, physical or not, Statik’s already said he’ll do everything as usual. I didn’t even have to ask him. Statik is phenomenal, and so are you guys. Truly phenomenal.
With all that said, let’s mention one more small thing…
Just fucken unbelievable. Happy new diabolical year, people. Now I’ll go back to composing. The sixth track is soon completed… And as it looks, the opener for the album just changed… Thank you so much for 2011. Spread the word about The TPH Donation Experiment and let’s make 2012 the best year for The Hate ever.
Over the last weeks I have been working my ass off on this 6th track (out of 7 planned) for the next album that you guys, the Haters, obviously will make a reality thanx to your donations to The TPH Donation Experiment. Today I managed to put down the first session of bass for this tune (the guitars still need to be checked closely, and I also have to do all of the remaining electronic stuff and orchestras before it’s “finished”), but we are so getting there, and it feels fucken killer, to say the least. I even managed to record a short clip for ya of me recording bass for a part that is not a 100% completed just yet, but I thought it’d be nice for you to hear something of what’s to come eventually. Click this link to get there. I will try to make more of these videos as I move forward with the composing. I’m sure some of you appreciates it anyways, so…
Oh, and I almost forgot about one thing (no, I didn’t – I just saved the good news for last)…
It looks like we are moving towards the goal, people, which is just phenomenal on all accounts. You guys truly are amazing.
That’s it for now. Spread the word about The Experiment. You have done a tremendous job at it so far.
Until next time…
A hero named Ian just chipped in a hundred bucks, making sure we have now reached 3800 bucks in donations! That is just completely amazing once again. We are but 1200 bucks away from having the recording budget down (physical CD’s is another issue), ladies and gentlemen. And you are the ones who have been making sure The TPH Donation Experiment actually comes to fruition. Keep on spreading the word.
In related news, progress is being made with this 6th track I have been working on for a while. It’s not finished yet though, but it’s shaping up to get there and it will take the time it takes to complete everything. We will not rush a thing this time. To me, this coming album is the most important one we have ever done – for a lot of reasons. As always I will keep you informed about everything TPH-related on a regular basis. Just keep an eye on this site and our forums.
Last off we’ll run this again: if you do not feel like “just” donating for this album – buy yourself a shirt and help us that way. All the money we get go into the creation of this coming album.
Again, thanx so much for your incredible support.
It’s just breathtaking to see the support from you, Haters. We are now at the 3600$ level! This will be a success, all thanx to you guys. I will say this over and over again – I can never thank you enough. Never. We are just 1400 dollars away from the goddamn goal: the budget to cover the recording of our next album. Amazing. Absolutely amazing. Keep spreading the word about The TPH Donation Experiment. In the meantime I am working my ass off on the songs for the coming masterpiece. We will not rush anything at all when it comes to this one, the album I consider our most important to date – simply becoz you guys are actually making it happen. We will bleed for this, trust me on that. Lots of work left even if the actual songs are almost completed. I will spend insane hours on the details, as mentioned before. Working with the yrics and vocals parts not to mention solos and whatnot, will be a huge process – and it will be grand. Just bare with us, in 2012 this one will be recorded. And it will be massive on all accounts.
Stay tuned for more updates as we go along, and again – THANK YOU.
While we have been in Holland, destroying Eindhoven with Torture Division, the donations have continued to come in over the weekend and we are very happy to announce we have crossed the 3400 dollar mark, moving towards 3600 – fast! Just absolutely amazing on all accounts. Insanity. We will never be able to thank you enough. Keep on spreading the word.